Monday, December 10, 2007

interesting shizle from me mizle

"soapbox" says...
I find it odd that there are still people in this day and age of enlightenment who don't understand what it's like to be on the other side of bigotry. Yes it's hard to see when you are the one in power (200 to 1 he said). Someone might not throw stones at the non-Christian here in America, but, it's very possible they could decide they really don't like them very much. Maybe even play preference to Christians when it comes to opportunities. Take the fish symbol you see in the telephone book, when I see it, I think "Non-Christians need not shop here" or "If you're going to spend your money, make sure you spend here with me, another Christian, screw those non-Christians." It's outright bigotry but we can talk about that at another time...

A person should not have to pretend, when they are at work, a ball game, or school, that they are praying to fit in. Make someone hate them because they are yakking on the phone during prayer.

Yes, Christianity is the majority in the US today, but what if Muslim becomes the majority in thirty years. Won't you be happy that you don't have to be the only one standing when you're at school, a ball game, or work and everyone around you drops down to face Mecca and worship their deity? I myself don't want to find myself hunkered down with my butt in the air, bowing to Mecca so that I can get that promotion my Muslim manager has open.

If people want to say a prayer, they don't have to announce it over a loud speaker and make other people feel uncomfortable, just say a prayer in your own little group whenever the need arises. And, when you are in church phrase the Lord in mass. No one is stripping anyone of their right to pray whenever and wherever they want (or their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - not really sure why he threw that one in there unless it was their way of spinning to people who are not really paying attention), rather they are trying to right a wrong where everyone else, even those who don't want to pray, are put in an awkward position.

Mr. Harvey thinks, just because Christians are the majority, everyone else should just turn the other cheek and deal with it. Put yourself in someone else's position, it's not a very nice thing to do. Not a very Christian thing to do... :-)

Mr. Harvey can argue that we have been discriminating against non-Christians since this country was formed and we should be allowed to continue to do so. At least people could fake being Christian, it's a little harder to fake your sex or skin color, thus the reason this has probably gone on longer. People shouldn't have to be a "Closet non-Christian".

Paul Harvey, is scared. He is trying to incite his followers to resist change because he fears he might lose some of his power. I had to laugh when he said the "Silent Majority". The whole point of the issue is that they are not being silent! Yet another case of spinning to the person who isn't really thinking about what he is actually saying.

Think long term. For every action, there is a reaction. It is for the best if this type of religious discrimination is nipped in the bud now, while Christianity is still the majority and in power. As a civilized society, we must have laws and rules to help us all live together. If a law/rule favors one religion over another, then it is not very American. At least not the year 2008 American where there are laws against discrimination based on religion.

It's enlightened, kind people who want to end religious discrimination in America. Probably most of them were brought up Christian. It's not going to put an end to Christianity, rather it will bring peace and goodwill towards all.

You can't have prayer in public places and not discriminate against non-Christians! Mr. Harvey doesn't come out and say so, but what he is asking for is that the EEOC should have the part about discrimination based on religion scratched. He just doesn't get it and probably never will. Just like those in the KKK didn't think non-Caucasians should have rights because whites were the majority. I forgive him for his ignorance, but I also can not stay silent while he tries keep America in the dark ages.
...in response to what Paul Harvey said...

Paul Harvey says:I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue somebody forsinging a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I don't agree with Darwin, but I didn'tgo out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his Theory of
Evolution.Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered becausesomeone says a 30-second prayer before a football game. So what's the bigdeal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire Book of Acts.
They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safetyto the players on the field and the fans going home from the game.But it's a Christian prayer, some will argue.
Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country founded onChristian principles. According to our very own phone book, Christianchurches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would youexpect -- somebody chanting Hare Krishna?
If I went to a football game Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewishprayer.If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslimprayer.If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray
to Buddha.And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't bother me one bit.When in Rome...But what about the atheists? Is another argument.What about them? Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to
pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's askingtoo much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visitthe concession stand. Call your lawyer!Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell
thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at afootball game is going to shake the world's foundations.Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our
courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us topray before eating, to pray before we go to sleep. Our Bible tells us topray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling
us to cease praying.God, help us. And if that last sentence offends you, well, just sue me.The silent majority has been silent too long. It's time we tell that one ortwo who scream loud enough to be heard that the vast majority doesn't care
what they want. It is time that the majority rules! It's time we tell them,You don't have to pray; you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance;
You don't have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is yourright, and we will honor your right; but by golly, you are no longer goingto take our rights away. We are fighting back, and we WILL WIN!
God bless us one and all ... especially those who denounce Him, God blessAmerica, despite all her faults. She is still the greatest nation of all.God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and
worship God.Let's make 2008 the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back asthe foundation of our families and institutions ... and our military forces comehome from all the wars.

4 Comments:

At Mon Dec 10, 09:12:00 PM MST , Blogger Fern said...

Did you really write ALL of this? I have to confess I haven't read it all yet, most of it, but not all. I will return and finish reading later. Until then, props for having such a strong opinion

 
At Tue Dec 11, 04:16:00 AM MST , Blogger Mary Grace said...

i agree w little with both of them. Yes, prayer doesnt hurt anyone, and if the aethiests dont want to pray, then dont. But, i DO agree that mr harvey needs to realize that majority rules is not always the best option. If it were, we would have no variety in this country and everyone would be the same!
We are given the right to practice our religion, which is why we live here. and We should not deny that right to others by pushing out beleifs on them.

 
At Tue Dec 11, 03:53:00 PM MST , Blogger Angela said...

"We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may."

That entire discourse could have been summed up with these words.

 
At Wed Dec 12, 02:34:00 AM MST , Anonymous Anonymous said...

VERY EXCELLENT ANGELA & VERY TRUE! My comment is: It would not be fair for people to go to China or Israel, for example, get themselves into the news & in the schools; protest the religion, claim they are offended by the teaching of the religion in school or their praying in public, try to change their customs, tell them that this offends them, get into the news and try to get sympathy for their views, and tell them they can no longer celebrate their religious customs & traditions on their traditional holidays & at school, that they have been doing for 100's of years, because, even though the majority of that country believes these things, it is offensive to a minority that who has moved into the country. Any country that accepts this is accepting the demise of their country. These people don't want to let us worship "how, where or what we may." They want to dictate what we can worship, how we can worship or if we may worship God & Jesus at all. Our Judeo Christian religion that our country was founded on offends them. WE do not need to feel guilty. Right now in the USA in New Jersey a high school girl is protesting that the traditional Christmas Celebrations are offensive to her, and the school is having to cut out their annual Christmas celebrations because of the complaints of this one person! Similar things have been happening in some other states. If we would like to have another country dictate their beliefs to us, I guess we can just sit by and quietly let it happen. There is another statement that comes to mind. "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good to remain quiet and do nothing."
Mom

 

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